Rocky seeing reds as Jabba sees green
According to reports, we've accepted a £35 million bid for Rocky from Liverpool (who are frantically scrabbling round to replace Torres, who is on the verge of joining Chelski).
Whilst there's still a little way to go on Transfer Deadline Day, I can't help thinking (perhaps controversially) that this is actually quite a good deal for us.
Yes, Rocky's scored quite a few goals this season, and certainly helped us rack up 30 points already. However, he's currently injured and is only in his first season, so whilst Liverpool would argue they are paying a premium for potential, the reality is that the player could also go off the rails/downhill from here. For every player who has enjoyed a phenomenal career, there are plenty of others who have enjoyed one goalscoring season in the sun, before failing to repeat the feat at different clubs throughout their subsequent careers (James Beattie, Kevin Davies, etc.)
Whether Rocky would be one of those players, I don't know. But what I do know is that if you went out and spent the proceeds you could seriously improve the quality of our squad to make us a much more competitive Premier League team going forward.
The gamble (which we know Jabba's fond of) is whether the team, without Rocky, will be able to garner enough points to stay up this season. Any negative thoughts around that rather assume we're a one-man team - which is far from the case. Yes, our main goal threat may be on his way out, but even if we don't frantically sign someone else before 11pm, then it's a pretty poor state of affairs if ASBO, Nolan and co can't add ten more points.
Update: Apparently we've told Liverpool to stick their latest bid where the sun doesn't shine (Toxteth?) - although there are suggestions Rocky is currently on his way to Liverpool anyway (possibly in a car driven by Kevin Nolan).
Memories of the James Milner to Villa saga come flooding back.
Further update: Rocky has apparently now submitted a transfer request. This is clearly going to run and run - we'll update the position when it all becomes clear (probably tomorrow).
Furthest update: Auf Wiedersehen pet. More from Paul tomorrow - I'll keep my powder dry for the January edition of A Month Of Saturdays.
Whilst there's still a little way to go on Transfer Deadline Day, I can't help thinking (perhaps controversially) that this is actually quite a good deal for us.
Yes, Rocky's scored quite a few goals this season, and certainly helped us rack up 30 points already. However, he's currently injured and is only in his first season, so whilst Liverpool would argue they are paying a premium for potential, the reality is that the player could also go off the rails/downhill from here. For every player who has enjoyed a phenomenal career, there are plenty of others who have enjoyed one goalscoring season in the sun, before failing to repeat the feat at different clubs throughout their subsequent careers (James Beattie, Kevin Davies, etc.)
Whether Rocky would be one of those players, I don't know. But what I do know is that if you went out and spent the proceeds you could seriously improve the quality of our squad to make us a much more competitive Premier League team going forward.
The gamble (which we know Jabba's fond of) is whether the team, without Rocky, will be able to garner enough points to stay up this season. Any negative thoughts around that rather assume we're a one-man team - which is far from the case. Yes, our main goal threat may be on his way out, but even if we don't frantically sign someone else before 11pm, then it's a pretty poor state of affairs if ASBO, Nolan and co can't add ten more points.
Update: Apparently we've told Liverpool to stick their latest bid where the sun doesn't shine (Toxteth?) - although there are suggestions Rocky is currently on his way to Liverpool anyway (possibly in a car driven by Kevin Nolan).
Memories of the James Milner to Villa saga come flooding back.
Further update: Rocky has apparently now submitted a transfer request. This is clearly going to run and run - we'll update the position when it all becomes clear (probably tomorrow).
Furthest update: Auf Wiedersehen pet. More from Paul tomorrow - I'll keep my powder dry for the January edition of A Month Of Saturdays.
Labels: andy carroll, liverpool, transfer window
posted by Paul at 3:51 pm
11 Comments:
agree 100% I don't see how we could turn that down I am a little worried about striking options for the rest of the season if no one comes in but even Nolan and the like could get us another 10 points surely
We've wasted twice that amount on players such as Owen, Viaina, Boumsong, Luque, Martins, Duff, Bramble etc.
As I see it for that price there is little choice but to sell.
Don't want to see him go, but it is really hard to argue with that much money.
How can you say that selling Carroll is a good move?? Why settle for PL survival when we could actually qualify for Europe. Newcastle take just as much £ from club merchandise and sales we have a very loyal following and are a big club. Ashley has made us into a small selling club because he is only in it for the money! A complete joke we need to take a stand on Saturday. Go into the ground then after 5minutes everyone leave. The only way to show our disgust is to stand as one and have one voice.
if you think for one second that Ashley is going to help the club by giving Newcastle the tranfer money, then i must assume your head is up your arse.
Paul......what are you talking about!!!!!! If we sell him and do not get a replacement then that is crap business. There is only one loser here. Chelsea get their man, liverpool get a whole heap of cash for (alhtough a great player) someone who has not performed for a year and half, and we end up with no striker!
Seriously fella you must have bumped your head or something. Ok I accept £35m is a lot of money, but it takes £24m to buy Darren Bent these days, and looking at his all round contribution to a team I certainly wouldn't want him as a replacement. Secondly you are assuming £35m as good business if Jabba spends it all on replacements, can you seriously see this happening? What happened to all the money we brought in from the sales of Milner, Given, Bassong, Martins, to name but a few? Ok we needed some cost cutting measures but all in all we raised nearly £80m all of which went on cost cutting?! Finally even if we do find a £20m replacement (and Jabba sanctions such a move) which £20m player worth his salt is going to sign for a "selling club" with a rock bottom wage structure such as ours now appears to be? As an example I give you David Villa who signed for Barcelona last summer for a fee in the region of the same £35m, can you really see that class of player (or someone anywhere near)wanting to come and work for Mike Ashley?
Seriously fella you must have bumped your head or something. Ok I accept £35m is a lot of money, but it takes £24m to buy Darren Bent these days, and looking at his all round contribution to a team I certainly wouldn't want him as a replacement. Secondly you are assuming £35m as good business if Jabba spends it all on replacements, can you seriously see this happening? What happened to all the money we brought in from the sales of Milner, Given, Bassong, Martins, to name but a few? Ok we needed some cost cutting measures but all in all we raised nearly £80m all of which went on cost cutting?! Finally even if we do find a £20m replacement (and Jabba sanctions such a move) which £20m player worth his salt is going to sign for a "selling club" with a rock bottom wage structure such as ours now appears to be? As an example I give you David Villa who signed for Barcelona last summer for a fee in the region of the same £35m, can you really see that class of player (or someone anywhere near)wanting to come and work for Mike Ashley?
In theory, it's a terrific piece of business -- if we can muster enough points to stay up.
But what are the chances that Ashley will just use the money to pay himself a big fat bonus? I mean, will he REALLY reinvest it?
Maybe you should have made this post a liveblog in order to keep track of all the twists and turns. This is craziness.
One point: I have a feeling Ashley won't invest much,if any, of that 35M quid back into the club. A depressing day
Hold on a second, Ashley turns down a 30M bid and then turns down another bid at 35M until Carrol hands in a transfer request, and its Ashleys fault?? get a grip, Carrol has let us down no-one else.
He has a short memory if it wasnt for the toon and Nolan Carrol would be in Jail. FACT, if he signs he's no longer a Geordie in my book
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